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Ann FORDYCE[1]

Female Abt 1743 -

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  • Name Ann FORDYCE 
    Born Abt 1743 
    Gender Female 
    _UID C98B16759B49D811B6E9D81D452EE834CF9C 
    Person ID I6337  YoungFamily
    Last Modified 16 Jun 2021 

    Father Robert FORDYCE, (Theory) 
    Mother Sarah SUTHERLAND, (Theory) 
    _UID FA0BE185D8DE5047B7409D92A96C56E62F17 
    Family ID F5253  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family William BAIN,   b. Bef 1747,   d. Aft 1809  (Age > 64 years) 
    _UID C78B16759B49D811B6E9D81D452EE834CD7C 
    Children 
     1. Williamina BAIN,   b. 1765, Gardie, Mid Yell, Shetland Island, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Dec 1856, Altony, Mid Yell, Shetland Islands, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 91 years)
    Last Modified 15 May 2022 
    Family ID F2194  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Margaret BRUCE bc 1566 married Alexander Fordyce ca 1590. Margaret was the daughter of Laurence Bruce (of Cultmalindie arrived in Shetland in 1571 and eventually built Muness Castle) and Helen Kennedy married 1559. Helen was the daughter of Alexander Kennedy of Girvan Mains
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      These message board postings found on RootsWeb make for interesting supposition about the Fordyce lady in my family tree.

      1. UNST - Fordyce, Cluness and Jamieson
      steve_dobson Posted: 14 Jan 2003 12:44PM GMT
      Classification: Query
      Surnames: Fordyce, Cluness & Jamieson
      New to this family tree stuff on the internet. My family tree has a ANDREW FORDYCE of Muness, Unst. Born approx 1770's. Family story says that the Fordyces came from Scottish mainland, to help build Muness Castle. ANDREW FORDYCE married a JANET CLUNESS from UNST. They had a daughter URSULA FORDYCE who married a EDWARD JAMIESON from Ramnageo, Unst. Jamieson family of Unst moved to Fetlar in late 19th century. Can trace EDWARD JAMIESON family back to circa 1740 on UNST. His father was JAMES EDWARDSON born 1769 and Grandfather was EDWARD ANDERSON of Virse, Colvidale, Unst. Will gladly send what info I have if it helps. Regards

      2. Re: UNST - Fordyce, Cluness and Jamieson
      Eric Oistad Posted: 12 Jan 2004 4:22AM GMT
      Classification: Query
      Surnames: Fordyce, Clark, Bruce, Fraser
      Hello, I also am descended from the Fordyces who sprung from Alexander Fordyce, born abt. 1551 who accompanied Laurence Bruce of Cultmalindie to Unst. Legend has it that Alexaner was the master builder of Muness Castle, and it was his son Andrew who married Bruce's daughter. I own an old book called "Fordyce, Bruce and Clark Families" on Unst, and I looked for your Andrew Fordyce b. 1770s and could not find a match, though there are a lot of Andrew Fordyces over the years. I will keep looking, but do you have any other Fordyces or Bruces or Clarks in your line?

      [Perhaps full title is "Genealogy, Records, and Inter-marriages of the Fordyce, Bruce and Clark Families at Uyeasound, Unst, Shetland", by John Clark (Superintendent of the Certified Industrial School, Falkirk.). Publisher: Thos. Paul, Grahamston, 1902 - 129 pages]

      3. Re: UNST - Fordyce, Cluness and Jamieson
      Bruce Fordyce COCKBURN Posted: 17 Sep 2004 12:50AM GMT
      Classification: Query
      Surnames:
      Hi Steve and Eric, I've used a copy of the same book that Eric mentioned in his posting to trace my line back to Laurence BRUCE of Cultmalindie. in the 16th century. Then I went back along the Bruces all the way back to Charlemagne in the 9th century. After 40-odd generations it is mathematically certain that all descendants of Western Europeans are descended from Charlemagne. But I was fortunate to be able to find an actual line of descent. (If anyone spots an error in the page linked below, please let me know. I'd also be interested in other lines of descent from Charlemagne to the Bruces and Fordyces of Shetland: there are surely many others). http://www.ece.ualberta.ca/~cockburn/royaldescent.html

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      1841 Scotland Census
      Name: Ann Fordyce
      Age: 95
      Estimated birth year: abt 1746
      Gender: Female
      Where born: Orkney and Shetland, Scotland

      Civil parish: North Yell
      County: Orkney and Shetland
      Address: Cottage
      Parish Number: 4

      Household Members: Name Age
      George Jameson 50, fisherman, born Orkney and Shetland, Scotland
      Johannah Jameson 35
      Jane Jameson 23
      Bruce Jameson 19
      Margaret Jameson 14
      Barbara Jameson 1
      Ann Fordyce 95, born Orkney and Shetland, Scotland

      Source Citation: Parish: North Yell; ED: 1; Page: 6; Line: 650; Roll ; Year: 1841.

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      My descent from Charlemagne through Hugh Capet, King of France, and Robert I the Bruce, King of Scotland
      Charles I "Charlemagne", King of the Franks, King of the Lombards, Emperor of the West (b. 2 Apr 742 Ingolheim, d. 28 Jan 814 Aachen)
      m3. Hildegard of Alemannien (b. 758, d. 30 Apr. 783)
      Pepin I (b. as Carloman), King of Italy 781-810 (b. Apr 773, d. 8 July 810)
      m. 795 Bertha of Toulouse
      Bernhard, King of Italy 810-818 (b. c797, d. 17 Aug/Apr 818 as a result of blinding)
      Illegitimate son of Pepin. m. 813 Kunigunda Cunegonde
      Pepin II, Count of Senlis, Peronne and St. Quentin (b. 815/818, d. aft 840)
      wife's name is unknown
      Hubert I/Heribert I, Count of Senlis and Vermandois (b. c850, d. 900 or 6 Nov. 907)
      m. Beatrice de Morvois
      Beatrice/Beatrix de VERMANDOIS (b. c880, d. Mar. 931)
      m. 895 Robert I, King of France (b. c865, d. 15 June 923)
      Hugh "the Great" of Neustria, Burgundy and Aquitania, Count of Paris, Duke of the Franks (b. c895, d. 16/17 June 956)
      m3. Hedwig of Saxony, sister of Otto I, Holy Roman Emperor
      Hugh "Capet", Count of Paris, first Duke then King of France (b. c938/940 Paris, d. 24 Oct 996 Chartres)
      m. c969/70 Adele/Adelaide of Aquitaine (b. 945, d. 1004)
      Hedwige de France (b. c972-980, d aft 1013)
      m. Rainier/Reginar IV, Count of Mons (b. c950-955, d. 1013)
      Beatrix de HAINAULT (b. c1000, d, 1040)
      m. Ebles I de ROUCY, Count of Roucy, Archbishop of Rheims 1021-33 (b. c988, d 11 May 1033)
      Adele/Adela/Alix/Alice de ROUCY (b. c1014, d. 1063)
      m. Hilduin III/IV DE MONTDIDIER, Count of Montdidier and Roucy (b. c1010, d 1062/3)
      Margaret de MONTDIDIER (b. c1035/45, d aft 1103)
      m. Hugh I DE CLERMONT, Count of Clermont (b. c1030 France, d. 1101 Nothamptonshire, England)
      Hugh and Margarent probably came to England following the Battle of Hastings in 1066.
      Adeliza/Adelaide de CLAREMONT (b. c1058, d. aft 1117)
      m. bef 1090 Gilbert FitzRichard de Toneburge, Lord of Clare, Lord of Cardigan (b. bef 1066, d. 1113/1114/1117)
      Gilbert's father, Richard FitzGilbert de Toneburge, was probably a Norman noble who came to England along with William the Conqueror in 1066.
      Richard FitzGilbert, Lord of Clare, 1st Earl of Hertford (b. 1084-90, d. 15 Apr/June 1136)
      m. bef 1116 Adelize/Alice de Meschines (b. 1088/94, d. 1128)
      Roger de CLARE, Earl of Clare, 3rd Earl of Hertford (b. aft 1115, d. 1173)
      m. c1182 Matilda/Maud de ST HILAIRE DU HARCOUET (d. 1195)
      Richard de CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford (b. c1153, d. Oct/Nov 1217)
      m. Amicia FitzRobert, Countess of Gloucester (b. 1160, d. 1225)
      Richard was one of the 25 barons who signed the Magna Carta on 15 June 1215.
      Gilbert de CLARE, 5th Earl of Hertford, 1st Earl of Gloucester (b. c1180, d. 1229)
      m. Isabella/Isabel MARSHAL (b. 9 Oct 1200, d. 19 Jan 1240)
      Gilbert was one of the 25 barons who signed the Magna Carta on 15 June 1215.
      Isabel de CLARE (b. 8 Nov 1226, d. 1254)
      m. 1240 Robert Bruce "The Competitor", 5th Lord of Annandale (b. 1210, d. 1 Apr 1295 Lochmaben Castle, Scotland)
      Robert BRUCE, Earl of Carrick (b. 1253, d. Mar 1304)
      m1. 1271/2 Marjorie. m2. c1292 to Eleanor
      With Marjorie, Robert had 11 children.
      Robert I the BRUCE, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Annandale, King of Scots (b. 11 July 1274 in Writtle, Essex or Turnberry Castle, Strathclyde; d. 7 June 1329 Cardross, Strathclyde)
      m. 1302 Elizabeth DE BURGH (b. c1284; d. 28 Oct 1327)
      Maud Matilda BRUCE (b. c1310 Dunfermline, Fifeshire; d. 20 July 1353 Aberdeen)
      m. Thomas ISAAC
      Jonet ISAAC (b. c1337)
      m. bef 1362 John MACALAN (b. c1317 Lorn, Argyllshire)
      Isabel de ERGADIA (b. c1362; d. 21 Dec 1439)
      m. c1378 Sir John STEWART, Lord of Lorn (b. bef 1367, d. 26 Apr 1421)
      Jean STEWART (b. c1396)
      m. Sir David BRUCE, 4th Baron of Clackmannan
      John BRUCE, 5th Baron/laird of Clackmannan (b. 1420 in Cultmalindie, Pershshire; d. 1473)
      m. Elizabeth STEWART
      Robert BRUCE (b. bef 1475 Cultmalindie, Perthshire; d. 1508)
      m. 1475 Janet BARBOUR
      Hector BRUCE of Cultmalindie (b. c1480 Cultmalindie, Perthshire; d. May 1529)
      m. between 19 Jan 1500/01 - Jan 1501/02 Gelis WARDLAW
      John BRUCE of Cultmalindie (b. 1502 Cultmalindie, Perthshire; d. Mar 1547)
      m. c1546 Eupheme ELPHINSTONE
      Laurence BRUCE of Cultmalindie (b. 20 Jan 1547; d. Aug 1617)
      In c1571 Laurence was appointed "faud" (sheriff) of the Shetland Islands and moved to Unst.
      His corrupt and tyrannical rule provoked a petition to the royal court in Edinburgh.
      A royal commission travelled to Shetland and in February 1577 took evidence from 700 male
      Shetlanders. Laurence was removed from office, but he returned to the islands in June the
      following year as "sheriff-depute". In c1598 Lawrence completed Muness castle, the northernmost
      castle (now a ruin) in Great Britain.
      m. (first) in 1559 to Helen KENNEDY of Givan Mains
      Had six children: Alexander; Andrew; Helen; Margaret, b. c1566; Marjory; and Elizabeth.
      m. (second) to Elizabeth
      Laurence also had many (c24) illegitimate children.
      Margaret BRUCE
      m. c1592 Alexander FORDYCE of Crail (b. c1551; d. c1627)
      Alexander apparently came to Shetland along with Laurence Bruce's party.
      There is a reference to an Alexander Fordyce that records that on 28 June 1601 he was a witness to a legal agreement involving William Bruce of Symbister, nephew of Laurence Bruce. Alexander is described as being a servant of William. It is not certain that this is the same Alexander Fordyce. Symister is on the island of Whalsay, far away from Unst.
      Margaret and Alexander lived in the house "East Booth" at Sandwick Unst, near Muness Castle.
      They had at least one child, Alexander.
      Alexander FORDYCE (b. c1604; d. after 1640)
      Lived in the East Booth
      m. c1634 Elizabeth BRUCE of Muness Castle, daughter of Andrew Bruce, who succeeded Lawrence Bruce.
      They had at least one child, Andrew.
      Andrew FORDYCE (b. 1640; d. after 1668)
      m. c1670 Elizabeth HENDERSON, daughter of William Henderson, the Laird of Gloup.
      Reported to have had 18 children plus one child before marriage.
      Hugh FORDYCE, of Gloup, North Yell, (b. c1668 before marriage of his parents)
      m. c1700 Dorothy BLANCE and lived at Gloup, North Yell
      They had at least three children: James, Robert and Andrew.
      Robert FORDYCE, weaver in Gardie, Uyeasound (b. c1724)
      m. c1753 Sarah SUTHERLAND of Clugan, Unst
      They had seven children: John, Dorothy, Marion, Hugh, Thomas, Alexander and William.
      William FORDYCE, tailor in Uyeasound (b. July 4, 1771, d. 1838)
      m. 1793 Mary Bruce (b. Jan. 21, 1772 and d. Mar. 2, 1864)
      They had eleven children: William; Margaret; Bruce; Elizabeth; Robert; Thomas Irvine, d. aged 6 months; Thomas Irvine; Joanna, d. aged 6 months; Joanna; Barbara; and Andrew.
      Capt. Thomas Irvine FORDYCE, master mariner (b. Jan. 9, 1805)
      Lost in wreck of brigantine "Thule" off Newfoundland, Sept. 28, 1839
      m. Feb. 17, 1831 Wilhelmina Spence of Haroldswick
      They had four children: Margaret Spence, b. Sept. 14, 1832; Thomas, b. June 19, 1835; William, b. Sept 20, 1837; Mary, b. Nov. 6, 1839.
      Capt. William FORDYCE, master mariner (b. Sept. 20, 1837 in Lerwick)
      Final command was the four-masted barque "The Falls of Halladale", which he sailed around the world in 1902.
      m. Sept. 15, 1863 Sarah Thomson Govan
      Had eight children: William Govan, accountant; Helen Biggar, died at 10; Wilhelmina Spence; Sarah Thomson; Jane Govan; Thomas, sailed as engineer on "The Clan Ferguson"; Catherine Farquhar; John Govan, engineer.
      Catherine Farquhar FORDYCE (d. in Glasgow 1950s)
      m. Thomas COCKBURN
      They had three children: Sarah, John and William
      William Fordyce COCKBURN
      m. Nov. 11, 1950 Patricia COWAN
      They have two children: Bruce and Sally
      Bruce Fordyce COCKBURN
      References

      Genealogy, Records and Intermarriages of the Fordyce, Bruce & Clark Families at Uyeasound, Unst, Shetland, 2nd ed., by John Clark (printed for private circulation by Thos. Paul, Grahamston Printing Works; Falkirk; 1902).
      Shetland Documents 1195 - 1579, John H. Ballantyne and Brian Smith (eds.), (Shetland Islands Council & The Shetland Times Ltd., Lerwick, 1999).
      Shetland Documents 1580 - 1611, John H. Ballantyne and Brian Smith (eds.), (Shetland Islands Council & The Shetland Times Ltd., Lerwick, 1994).

  • Sources 
    1. [S19] District Registration of Death, Scotland, (Scotland, Edinburgh: Registrar General for Scotland), District of United parishes of Mid and South Yell, 1856, page 8, 31 Dec 1856.
      Decedant: Williamina Bain, widow (spouse not named - typical for women to revert to maiden surname after death of husband in this time period), at 7:00 a.m. at No. 2, Altony, Mid Yell, aged 91 years, daughter of William Bain, farmer and Ann Fordyce. Cause of death: old age and 12 days illness. No one in attendance, no medical attendant, not certified. Burial to be in Mid Yell Cemetery.
      Copy of original district registration of death purchased from http://www.scotlandspeople.com, in possession of Susan Young.